EDM-DET

[Winnipeg Jets GM]

TO: (EDM)
D Marc-Andre Bergeron 80 OFD - $1.000M (UFA 2015)

TO: (DET)
(EDM) 2nd (2014)


(EDM) Accepts.

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

sure

[Mazurka Former Coyotes GM]

wtf? bergeron is worth way more than a 2nd. i'll give my 1st 2nd and a prospect for a player like that. especially with that contract

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

Feb 22, 2013 16:48:10 GMT -8 Mazurka Former Coyotes GM said:

wtf? bergeron is worth way more than a 2nd. i'll give my 1st 2nd and a prospect for a player like that. especially with that contract

well obviously no one really wanted him all that much if he only got 1 mil. And you'd be overpaying if you have that much... haha. It might be off but it's not cheating. Mods are too strict. Plus your not a mod.

[Colorado Avalanche GM]

I agreed to trade him to Washington already. If Washington still wants to do our deal I am with that one.

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

oh god. here comes drama...

[Colorado Avalanche GM]

I had waited for Kruze to get back to me and Washington sent me an offer that I accepted. If Washington doesn't want that, then I am fine. Just I had told him to post it, so I;m not backing out of that one without hearing from him first. Kruze is fine. You don't need to create drama.

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

Feb 22, 2013 17:05:31 GMT -8 Colorado Avalanche GM said:

I had waited for Kruze to get back to me and Washington sent me an offer that I accepted. If Washington doesn't want that, then I am fine. Just I had told him to post it, so I;m not backing out of that one without hearing from him first. Kruze is fine. You don't need to create drama.

Haha I'm not the one creating drama... If you take washingtons deal after kruze already posted this he isn't going to like it

[Colorado Avalanche GM]

I had taken Washington's deal way before he posted. No drama. I woudn't do that to anybody. Kruze knows I woudn't do that.

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

Then why did Kruze post if you already took someone elses deal..?

[Winnipeg Jets GM]

Feb 22, 2013 17:22:12 GMT -8 Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM said:

Then why did Kruze post if you already took someone elses deal..?

^^^THIS^^^

There was no mention of any other deal and it was Wings that made this offer to me, in that he asked for the 2nd for this player. I also asked Caps for Bergeron's stats and he also mentioned nothing about having a deal in place with Wings for Bergeron... I dunno wtf is going on, but I'm definitely not liking how Wings does business here... That's for sure. lol

Though if there is a deal that Wings ends up taking after making this one with me, I smell 2 big, fat SMITES coming both Wings and Caps way...

[New York Rangers GM]

ugh... dammit. I have 2 D out long term, so I was offering on D all over the place. It's true that Kruze asked for Bergerons stats during this time, so whether or not it's "tampering" is debatable. I can see how kruze would feel kind of slough footed here, so being that Wings was the one that offered this to Kruze, I'll be the better man, and consider this deal to have beaten me to it. I certainly don't wanna be smitened

Me and Wings will work out something else.

Though... I have to agree with Phoenix that Bergeron is absolutly worth more than a 2nd. But, now I'd look like a dick to reject, so I guess I accept.

[Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM]

i knew this was going to happen.... Wings can still reject as he hasn't posted accept.. I mean, did Wings send the offer before he agreed to the deal with Caps or after? cause I understand if like, Wings send the offer before, and then had a deal set with caps during the time when kruze wasn't on and when the offer was sent, then kruze comes on and takes the offer when Wings has forgotten about that deal and taken Caps. Cause like, if you just post what someone offers you there is a chance of being blown off if they find something else. I understand both sides situations..

[Colorado Avalanche GM]

Accepted then boys. I want picks and nobody wanted to trade. I want to have a plus 4 on my very high pick and lots of good kids ready to play defense

[Winnipeg Jets GM]

Feb 22, 2013 19:37:49 GMT -8 Former Tampa Bay Lightning GM said:

i knew this was going to happen.... Wings can still reject as he hasn't posted accept.. I mean, did Wings send the offer before he agreed to the deal with Caps or after? cause I understand if like, Wings send the offer before, and then had a deal set with caps during the time when kruze wasn't on and when the offer was sent, then kruze comes on and takes the offer when Wings has forgotten about that deal and taken Caps. Cause like, if you just post what someone offers you there is a chance of being blown off if they find something else. I understand both sides situations..

It wasn't a case of that, Bolts... I was waiting on getting Bergeron's stats from Caps to make a decision whether to take this deal or not. My team's doing well anyways, so this was just to shore it up a little. But whatever... It's ultimately Wings decision what he wants to do now.

I, personally, just don't believe in making an offer to one person then turning around and dealing the player(s) in that deal to someone else until I hear from the first party. I see way too much of it happening, and it kinda bugs me, but there's nothing I can really do about except smite those that do it to me, and be extra tough in trade negotiations with them in the future...
Yes, I DO remember these things... lol

[Colorado Avalanche GM]

That would work for some people Kruze. But you have to remember that you don't always here back from people. In fact most of the time you don't here back from anybody. That is the only issue. It had been awhile and I had forgot all about our offer until you posted it. No Problem though. I should be able to work something with Caps also. I didn't realize he knew something about our deal also

[luongod]

fin

[Winnipeg Jets GM]

Feb 22, 2013 20:02:06 GMT -8 Colorado Avalanche GM said:

That would work for some people Kruze. But you have to remember that you don't always here back from people. In fact most of the time you don't here back from anybody. That is the only issue. It had been awhile and I had forgot all about our offer until you posted it. No Problem though. I should be able to work something with Caps also. I didn't realize he knew something about our deal also

Well, FYI... unless I totally forget about a PM, I always try and get back to every PM I'm sent... doesn't always happen, but I usually do... unles I don't like you... lol