NYI - DAL

[New York Islanders GM]

To:
RW/C Jordan Kyrou PLY 85 (24) 4.25M RFA 2024
RW Simon Holmström TWF 80 (21) 0.950M RFA 2024
NYI 2023 2ND

To:
C Yevgeni Kuznetsov PLY 90 (30) 7.8M UFA 2025 -> DAL Retains 0.100M to 2023

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hansmoleman

[Calgary Flames GM]

I am disappointed in Dallas

[hansmoleman]

Mar 30, 2021 7:19:43 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

I am disappointed in Dallas

Because I didn’t take your deal?

[Calgary Flames GM]

Mar 30, 2021 7:59:38 GMT -8 hansmoleman said:

Mar 30, 2021 7:19:43 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

I am disappointed in Dallas

Because I didn’t take your deal?

Because you don't really negotiate lol, you could have gotten more in both the deals you chose or you could have opted for different options where you got more 

[hansmoleman]

Mar 30, 2021 8:09:13 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

Mar 30, 2021 7:59:38 GMT -8 hansmoleman said:

Because I didn’t take your deal?

Because you don't really negotiate lol, you could have gotten more in both the deals you chose or you could have opted for different options where you got more 

I honestly don’t really have time to comb through you and Minny’s roster to come up with a counter to that deal when I have a simple offer that I like that almost completely resolves my cap issues. 

[Ottawa Senators GM]

final

[Calgary Flames GM]

Mar 30, 2021 8:22:14 GMT -8 hansmoleman said:

Mar 30, 2021 8:09:13 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

Because you don't really negotiate lol, you could have gotten more in both the deals you chose or you could have opted for different options where you got more 

I honestly don’t really have time to comb through you and Minny’s roster to come up with a counter to that deal when I have a simple offer that I like that almost completely resolves my cap issues. 

That's not even what I'm talking about LOL. It's when you don't simply communicate what's going on while we're waiting on you to get your roster fixed. It's not about my offer in particular because I don't care about that--it's when you say things like, "I like it, I'll think about it" then don't reply for two days and then you have other trades you make. I'm not the only person you've done this to, and there's another GM in the league who does this. It's my personal opinion, but when there's a lack of communication and negotiation from GMs, it hurts the league--especially when it leads to trades that are clearly one-sided. If you didn't have these glaring cap problems, both of these trades you made would have been rejected. 

[hansmoleman]

Mar 30, 2021 11:21:46 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

Mar 30, 2021 8:22:14 GMT -8 hansmoleman said:

I honestly don’t really have time to comb through you and Minny’s roster to come up with a counter to that deal when I have a simple offer that I like that almost completely resolves my cap issues. 

That's not even what I'm talking about LOL. It's when you don't simply communicate what's going on while we're waiting on you to get your roster fixed. It's not about my offer in particular because I don't care about that--it's when you say things like, "I like it, I'll think about it" then don't reply for two days and then you have other trades you make. I'm not the only person you've done this to, and there's another GM in the league who does this. It's my personal opinion, but when there's a lack of communication and negotiation from GMs, it hurts the league--especially when it leads to trades that are clearly one-sided. If you didn't have these glaring cap problems, both of these trades you made would have been rejected. 

I told you what my issue was with the trade you offered me and I found a trade I liked more. I have actual things going on in my life that prevent me from being on top of everything all the time and getting into in depth negotiations with every single person who proposes a trade to me. I’m not really sure what you want from me. Sorry? 

And I was considering your deal. There were tons of moving pieces to it and I didn’t have an immediate answer for you. Does that preclude me from talking to other teams about a deal? If it’s that much of an issue and other GMs feel the same, I’ll leave the league.

[Calgary Flames GM]

Mar 30, 2021 13:18:13 GMT -8 hansmoleman said:

Mar 30, 2021 11:21:46 GMT -8 Calgary Flames GM said:

That's not even what I'm talking about LOL. It's when you don't simply communicate what's going on while we're waiting on you to get your roster fixed. It's not about my offer in particular because I don't care about that--it's when you say things like, "I like it, I'll think about it" then don't reply for two days and then you have other trades you make. I'm not the only person you've done this to, and there's another GM in the league who does this. It's my personal opinion, but when there's a lack of communication and negotiation from GMs, it hurts the league--especially when it leads to trades that are clearly one-sided. If you didn't have these glaring cap problems, both of these trades you made would have been rejected. 

I told you what my issue was with the trade you offered me and I found a trade I liked more. I have actual things going on in my life that prevent me from being on top of everything all the time and getting into in depth negotiations with every single person who proposes a trade to me. I’m not really sure what you want from me. Sorry? 

And I was considering your deal. There were tons of moving pieces to it and I didn’t have an immediate answer for you. Does that preclude me from talking to other teams about a deal? If it’s that much of an issue and other GMs feel the same, I’ll leave the league.

That's not what I'm talking about man. All I've been saying is that I think you can be getting more out of your deals if you negotiate them. You've had like a week for a lot of these offers. I just hate seeing you taking trades at such losses. My comments aren't really about what I sent to you because that was just an offer...it's about everything in general 

[Vancouver Canucks GM]

hansmoleman you’re fine. You just have to remember there’s a lot of high school/college kids in this league who have spare time. Not everyone is as mature as you and me quite yet. Don’t let the haters troll you. We all want you here you’ve been around for a long time and are a good member of our community

[Ottawa Senators GM]

Mar 30, 2021 13:55:12 GMT -8 Vancouver Canucks GM said:

college kids in this league who have spare time.

lol I had way more time before I went back to school