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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Apr 30, 2021 12:10:49 GMT -8
To ![edm](http://i.imgur.com/7HoPmZT.png) RW/LW Ondrej Kase SNP 86 (26) 3.75 UFA 2023 LW Max Comtois PWF 83 (23) 1.25 RFA 2023 RW/C Troy Terry TWF 82 (24) 1.45 RFA 2023 COL 2023 1st RD PHI 2024 2ND RD CGY 2025 2nd RD To ![cgy](http://i.imgur.com/aMZtOHj.png) RW Vladimir Tarasenko SNP 91 (30) 7.5M UFA 2023 Edmonton is likely missing the playoffs this year, so he's getting a good return for a player on an expiring contract he'll likely have trouble affording next season. This will help him get a better pick this year (unless his team performs better after this deal lol), it gives him a pick per year for 3 years including a first this season, and it improves his depth. Kase has been playing third line for me, so maybe he'll shine on Edmonton's first line. Regardless, this deal makes Edmonton younger and gives him several solid assets. This could be a pretty risky deal for me considering how injury prone Tarasenko is (he's missed over half the season).
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Post by thehockeyist on Apr 30, 2021 12:40:01 GMT -8
Accept.
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on Apr 30, 2021 13:35:51 GMT -8
I’m going to reject this. EDM is already over the cap, this makes it worse with the retention Tarasenko. Tarasenko hasn’t even been playing because of it, so I think a trade should probably address that issue
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Apr 30, 2021 13:44:01 GMT -8
I’m going to reject this. EDM is already over the cap, this makes it worse with the retention Tarasenko. Tarasenko hasn’t even been playing because of it, so I think a trade should probably address that issue I removed the retention and let Edmonton know. He agreed to it. This will be final if you accept the deal now
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Post by thehockeyist on Apr 30, 2021 13:44:32 GMT -8
Yep. Accept the removed retention.
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on Apr 30, 2021 13:46:28 GMT -8
Final. Make sure you send someone down EDM, and adjust roster/cap
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Post by thehockeyist on May 1, 2021 18:58:53 GMT -8
Final. Make sure you send someone down EDM, and adjust roster/cap Done, though my math suggests I'm under cap and I don't need to send someone down...?
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on May 2, 2021 8:02:53 GMT -8
Final. Make sure you send someone down EDM, and adjust roster/cap Done, though my math suggests I'm under cap and I don't need to send someone down...? It’s not because of your cap, but because of the 23 man roster limit on NHL teams
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Post by thehockeyist on May 2, 2021 16:47:05 GMT -8
Then you DMed me and said it was 23?
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 19, 2021 12:24:52 GMT -8
Talk about fleecing, just throw a bunch of crap out him and get a 91 in return. Come on guys this guy does this on every trade
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on May 19, 2021 12:28:35 GMT -8
Talk about fleecing, just throw a bunch of crap out him and get a 91 in return. Come on guys this guy does this on every trade Tarasenko ended up getting a -3. Additionally, Edmonton was over the cap and couldn't even play Tarasenko, and I was helping him fix his cap issues. Edmonton went from barely being a playoff hopeful to having a hugely successful run after the TDL. If you're gonna try to take your frustration out on me, at least do it sensibly. This trade helped Edmonton and made their team better.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 19, 2021 12:31:20 GMT -8
Talk about fleecing, just throw a bunch of crap out him and get a 91 in return. Come on guys this guy does this on every trade Tarasenko ended up getting a -3. Additionally, Edmonton was over the cap and couldn't even play Tarasenko, and I was helping him fix his cap issues. Edmonton went from barely being a playoff hopeful to having a hugely successful run after the TDL. If you're gonna try to take your frustration out on me, at least do it sensibly. This trade helped Edmonton and made their team better. you are such a douche. These sims sites are so done with the likes of you around
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on May 19, 2021 12:36:42 GMT -8
gee calm down both are nice guys don't start fighting with each-other.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on May 19, 2021 12:38:27 GMT -8
Tarasenko ended up getting a -3. Additionally, Edmonton was over the cap and couldn't even play Tarasenko, and I was helping him fix his cap issues. Edmonton went from barely being a playoff hopeful to having a hugely successful run after the TDL. If you're gonna try to take your frustration out on me, at least do it sensibly. This trade helped Edmonton and made their team better. you are such a douche. These sims sites are so done with the likes of you around How? I literally gave you a deal that you won in the short term that ended up with you having my first this year which I think would have been 6th had draft lottery not been the way it was. The deal I gave to Edmonton helped him fix his cap and it led to him overtaking me in the division, and I think he may have made playoffs but I don't remember. Why are you so mad at me? Is it because I wanted to make sure Minny understood the value of his players before he made a trade he'd regret, like the previous Minnesota GMs did and left right after?
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 19, 2021 12:45:07 GMT -8
you are such a douche. These sims sites are so done with the likes of you around How? I literally gave you a deal that you won in the short term that ended up with you having my first this year which I think would have been 6th had draft lottery not been the way it was. The deal I gave to Edmonton helped him fix his cap and it led to him overtaking me in the division, and I think he may have made playoffs but I don't remember. Why are you so mad at me? Is it because I wanted to make sure Minny understood the value of his players before he made a trade he'd regret, like the previous Minnesota GMs did and left right after? The way you handles it was the most disrespectful thing I have ever had done to me in these sites. To make a statement is fine but the way you attacked me and went all out to make sure that trade never happened. I just don't belong in these things anymore.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on May 19, 2021 12:51:41 GMT -8
How? I literally gave you a deal that you won in the short term that ended up with you having my first this year which I think would have been 6th had draft lottery not been the way it was. The deal I gave to Edmonton helped him fix his cap and it led to him overtaking me in the division, and I think he may have made playoffs but I don't remember. Why are you so mad at me? Is it because I wanted to make sure Minny understood the value of his players before he made a trade he'd regret, like the previous Minnesota GMs did and left right after? The way you handles it was the most disrespectful thing I have ever had done to me in these sites. To make a statement is fine but the way you attacked me and went all out to make sure that trade never happened. I just don't belong in these things anymore. What do you mean? If you think I specifically disrespected you then I'm open to hearing what I did wrong so I can improve going forward. Maybe I was a bit abrasive but I thought the deal was really bad considering Minny had just joined and didn't yet understand how growth worked here. I would have had the same reaction regardless of whomever tried to make that deal with Minny. I wasn't targeting you. I don't dislike you. It's just that Miiko and I spent so much time trying to get a Minnesota GM, and then when that didn't work we worked together to do Minny's lines and negotiate deals with teams at the trade deadline that never ended up working out. Maybe Miiko can back me up on that, but we spent a lot of time with it and seeing Minny lose his best pieces literally a day after he joined just didn't sit right. I wanted to make sure he understood what was going on, and he didn't, which is why he backed out of the deal. He was welcome to negotiate again with you, just without moving Firstov. If your intention was specifically to get him, then you've proven my point all along. I'm not trying to fight with you man. I don't appreciate you calling me crazy, a douchebag, etc., but I get you're expressing your feelings and that's fine. If you'd like to point out what I did to disrespect you or make you feel unwelcome, please tell me in a PM so I can sort it out. Thanks.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 19, 2021 13:05:16 GMT -8
The way you handles it was the most disrespectful thing I have ever had done to me in these sites. To make a statement is fine but the way you attacked me and went all out to make sure that trade never happened. I just don't belong in these things anymore. What do you mean? If you think I specifically disrespected you then I'm open to hearing what I did wrong so I can improve going forward. Maybe I was a bit abrasive but I thought the deal was really bad considering Minny had just joined and didn't yet understand how growth worked here. I would have had the same reaction regardless of whomever tried to make that deal with Minny. I wasn't targeting you. I don't dislike you. It's just that Miiko and I spent so much time trying to get a Minnesota GM, and then when that didn't work we worked together to do Minny's lines and negotiate deals with teams at the trade deadline that never ended up working out. Maybe Miiko can back me up on that, but we spent a lot of time with it and seeing Minny lose his best pieces literally a day after he joined just didn't sit right. I wanted to make sure he understood what was going on, and he didn't, which is why he backed out of the deal. He was welcome to negotiate again with you, just without moving Firstov. If your intention was specifically to get him, then you've proven my point all along. I'm not trying to fight with you man. I don't appreciate you calling me crazy, a douchebag, etc., but I get you're expressing your feelings and that's fine. If you'd like to point out what I did to disrespect you or make you feel unwelcome, please tell me in a PM so I can sort it out. Thanks. "This is a complete fleece for Colorado in terms of player performance. That 8th overall doesn't change anything for me. Come on man" To say that I came out and fleeced him and to follow up with a come on man. I just don't need this. I can't do anything with my team after you publicly announced how bad they were. Crap it is some times just the team they are on. But you keep managing all these teams for them. Maybe I can find some people that will take those players off of waivers as I sure as hell can't trade them now
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on May 19, 2021 13:08:18 GMT -8
COL, I re-read through your trade with Minny. I’m not really seeing why you’re so upset about this tbh.
I didn’t see anything that seemed disrespectful coming from CGY. He said it was a fleece. That’s his opinion, which he is free to express. I get you’re upset about that trade, but I really think he just wanted to make sure Minny knew what he was doing, and had looked at the stats. I know that’s where I was coming from. If CGY hadn’t said it, I would’ve said something similar, honestly.
And I don’t think these deals are comparable really, at all. But CGY has had his fair share of rejects. I don’t remember him calling anyone a douche either. Just sayin
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 19, 2021 13:15:35 GMT -8
COL, I re-read through your trade with Minny. I’m not really seeing why you’re so upset about this tbh. I didn’t see anything that seemed disrespectful coming from CGY. He said it was a fleece. That’s his opinion, which he is free to express. I get you’re upset about that trade, but I really think he just wanted to make sure Minny knew what he was doing, and had looked at the stats. I know that’s where I was coming from. If CGY hadn’t said it, I would’ve said something similar, honestly. And I don’t think these deals are comparable really, at all. But CGY has had his fair share of rejects. I don’t remember him calling anyone a douche either. Just sayin No he didn't call me a douche, I called him a douche and a few other things. I never had a chance but thanks.
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