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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:37:57 GMT -8
To RW David Pastrnak SNP 92 (24) 6.666M UFA 2023 LW/RW Anders Bjork TWF 80 (24) 1.6M UFA 2023 G Tuukka Rask HYB 90 (33) 7M UFA 2021 To RW/LW Alex DeBrincat SNP 86 (22) 6.4M RFA 2023 C Adam Gaudette TWF 80 (23) .950M RFA 2021 G David Rittich HYB 83 (28) 2.750M UFA 2021 CGY 2022 1st RD SJS 2021 2nd RD CGY 2022 2nd RD RW Alexander Pashin PLY 67 (18) .875M RFA 2023 LW Jake Neighbours TWF 69 (18) .898M RFA 2023 C Ilya Nikolayev TWF 69 (19) Taking on the Rask contract. He's at a 0.890%, worse than Rittich, so we'll see if he continues to underperform or he works out.
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Post by cdemp on Dec 16, 2020 13:39:21 GMT -8
Accept. Boston Rebuilding as of now and bringing Gaudette home.
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Post by wynne on Dec 16, 2020 13:47:18 GMT -8
Doesn’t do it for me. Pastrnak is someone you rebuild around. You get a lesser RW, trade a top goalie and don’t even get a good prospect back? Reject
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:47:34 GMT -8
Break it down for me gentlemen
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:48:05 GMT -8
Accept Calgary Flames GM what you mean taking on rask he’s a free agent after this season
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Post by Vegas Golden Knights GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:53:56 GMT -8
I don't think I'd do all of that for Pastrnak alone. He's signed to one of the best contracts for two more seasons after this one and Rask is essentially a throw in.
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Post by Montreal Canadiens GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:55:12 GMT -8
Going with Blues. Pastrnak is a young player on an extremely friendly contract and Boston is basically getting back a downgrade, a future 1st and a bunch of lowly prospects. Reject.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:55:13 GMT -8
Doesn’t do it for me. Pastrnak is someone you rebuild around. You get a lesser RW, trade a top goalie and don’t even get a good prospect back? Reject Doesn't seem like you're paying attention to actual stats. Rask has horrible stats right now. Rittich has unironically simmed better. I'm giving DeBrincat who has played very well since I fixed my lines, and he's 2 years younger than Pastrnak with plenty of room to grow. I'm giving him my first next year which could be good, plus a couple seconds and some solid young players that Boston would need for a rebuild. I'm giving Boston assets he doesn't have.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:55:54 GMT -8
You guys are paying too much attention to overall instead of actually evaluating EA simming
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Post by Montreal Canadiens GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:58:33 GMT -8
You guys are paying too much attention to overall instead of actually evaluating EA simming The issue isn't the Rask-Rittich swap. In my experiences with EA NHL Rask always sims like shit and Rittich is usually pretty good so I'm fine with that. The prospects you threw in are nothing special. DeBrincat can grow this season and that's it, and it's a future 1st so there's really no way to judge whether it'll 100% be a good pick or not.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:58:41 GMT -8
Accept Calgary Flames GM what you mean taking on rask he’s a free agent after this season Exactly. He's hasn't been good and he's an old rental so I'm taking a chance to see if he regains form. My defense clearly isn't the most elite in the league so it could easily not work out. As of now he's going to be heavily downgraded so people are definitely overestimating the value of this 33 year old goalie.
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 16, 2020 13:59:40 GMT -8
Goalie stats are weird. Mostly based on the team they’re on. Both are playing poorly so to me that doesn’t matter. Rask is a 90 OA. He’s a pending UFA and in for a downgrade so he’s what? A 88 on a more team friendly deal? You still have to pay for that. I think the rest is barely enough for Pasta as you’ll have him mad Rask next year so your pick won’t be that bad.
I’m rejecting as not enough is going to Boston
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:00:37 GMT -8
You guys are paying too much attention to overall instead of actually evaluating EA simming The issue isn't the Rask-Rittich swap. In my experiences with EA NHL Rask always sims like shit and Rittich is usually pretty good so I'm fine with that. The prospects you threw in are nothing special. DeBrincat can grow this season and that's it, and it's a future 1st so there's really no way to judge whether it'll 100% be a good pick or not. You traded away your 2022 1st previously in this sim. Boston has no prospects. These are guys he can work with and make use of his APU, which he otherwise wouldn't really be able to. Please consider more variables than just overall.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:02:31 GMT -8
not even close to enough guys rejected
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:02:43 GMT -8
Goalie stats are weird. Mostly based on the team they’re on. Both are playing poorly so to me that doesn’t matter. Rask is a 90 OA. He’s a pending UFA and in for a downgrade so he’s what? A 88 on a more team friendly deal? You still have to pay for that. I think the rest is barely enough for Pasta as you’ll have him mad Rask next year so your pick won’t be that bad. I’m rejecting as not enough is going to Boston Overall doesn't mean much here in terms of Rask. My defense is worse than Boston's. You're gonna have to suggest what would need to be added, in your opinion.
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Post by Montreal Canadiens GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:03:24 GMT -8
The issue isn't the Rask-Rittich swap. In my experiences with EA NHL Rask always sims like shit and Rittich is usually pretty good so I'm fine with that. The prospects you threw in are nothing special. DeBrincat can grow this season and that's it, and it's a future 1st so there's really no way to judge whether it'll 100% be a good pick or not. You traded away your 2022 1st previously in this sim. Boston has no prospects. These are guys he can work with and make use of his APU, which he otherwise wouldn't really be able to. Please consider more variables than just overall. I am. I'm considering that Pastrnak is on an extremely team friendly deal for the next 3 years and the prospects you threw in will probably be depth players with natural growth. Just because Boston plans on using his APU on them shouldn't effect their value. If Boston wanted to reinvigorate his prospect pool maybe he should get some actual blue chip prospects which he could easily do with Pastrnak lol.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:04:01 GMT -8
the 2nd's mean almost nothing and so do the 67 18year olds. This is a joke guys BIGTIME REJECTION
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 14:06:12 GMT -8
lol I was like, "that doesn't seem like enough for Patrnak", then I saw that Rask was also there.
Sorry boys!
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:08:02 GMT -8
Goalie stats are weird. Mostly based on the team they’re on. Both are playing poorly so to me that doesn’t matter. Rask is a 90 OA. He’s a pending UFA and in for a downgrade so he’s what? A 88 on a more team friendly deal? You still have to pay for that. I think the rest is barely enough for Pasta as you’ll have him mad Rask next year so your pick won’t be that bad. I’m rejecting as not enough is going to Boston Overall doesn't mean much here in terms of Rask. My defense is worse than Boston's. You're gonna have to suggest what would need to be added, in your opinion. Better prospects and pick this year - not next year
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:08:27 GMT -8
This league is gonna really need to think hard about prospect growth. Imo the concept of not growing after 2022 is crazy. A player having to be 76-77 at 18/19 to be considered even remotely valuable seems silly to me compared to how other sim leagues work. I'll renegotiate the deal but I think more consideration needs to be put into development of players because you guys seem to be acting like players can't get better after 22
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:09:31 GMT -8
This league is gonna really need to think hard about prospect growth. Imo the concept of not growing after 2022 is crazy. A player having to be 76-77 at 18/19 to be considered even remotely valuable seems silly to me compared to how other sim leagues work. I'll renegotiate the deal but I think more consideration needs to be put into development of players because you guys seem to be acting like players can't get better after 22 That is the case for ‘free upgrades’
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Post by Montreal Canadiens GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:16:07 GMT -8
This league is gonna really need to think hard about prospect growth. Imo the concept of not growing after 2022 is crazy. A player having to be 76-77 at 18/19 to be considered even remotely valuable seems silly to me compared to how other sim leagues work. I'll renegotiate the deal but I think more consideration needs to be put into development of players because you guys seem to be acting like players can't get better after 22 They can get better if they preform, but 22 is just when they stop getting free upgrades. No one knows if a 67 Overall will preform or not so it's kind of hard to judge their value other than the natural growth they'll get.
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Post by Vegas Golden Knights GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:16:10 GMT -8
This league is gonna really need to think hard about prospect growth. Imo the concept of not growing after 2022 is crazy. A player having to be 76-77 at 18/19 to be considered even remotely valuable seems silly to me compared to how other sim leagues work. I'll renegotiate the deal but I think more consideration needs to be put into development of players because you guys seem to be acting like players can't get better after 22 I'd move Ehlers, Krebs, Brisson, 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Pastrnak and still feel like I'm not trading enough.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:19:58 GMT -8
This league is gonna really need to think hard about prospect growth. Imo the concept of not growing after 2022 is crazy. A player having to be 76-77 at 18/19 to be considered even remotely valuable seems silly to me compared to how other sim leagues work. I'll renegotiate the deal but I think more consideration needs to be put into development of players because you guys seem to be acting like players can't get better after 22 I'd move Ehlers, Krebs, Brisson, 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Pastrnak and still feel like I'm not trading enough. Well DeBrincat > Ehlers by far, and your picks are much less valuable than mine lol. But I get it. I'm messaging him now about what to add
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:22:25 GMT -8
Sent you a PM calgary
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Post by Vegas Golden Knights GM on Dec 16, 2020 14:42:16 GMT -8
I'd move Ehlers, Krebs, Brisson, 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Pastrnak and still feel like I'm not trading enough. Well DeBrincat > Ehlers by far, and your picks are much less valuable than mine lol. But I get it. I'm messaging him now about what to add Yeah but the two prospects are better and Rask isn't involved.
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