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Post by wynne on Dec 18, 2020 20:14:20 GMT -8
 gets: C Ryan O'Reilly TWF 92 (29) 7.5M UFA 2023 G Andrei Vasilevsky HYB 91 (26) 9.5M UFA 2028 LD Devon Toews TWD 83 (26) 4.1M UFA 2024 RW/LW Michael Grabner SNP 81 (32) 1.2M UFA 2021 2023 STL 2nd Round Draft Pick  gets: RW Mark Stone PWF 92 (28) 9.5M UFA 2027 C Matt Duchene PLY 90 (29) 8M UFA 2026 [COL Retains 2M -> 2021] G Jacob Markström HYB 87 (30) 6M UFA 2026 LD Bowen Byram TWD 79 (19) .894M RFA 2023 Accepted. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 18, 2020 20:18:46 GMT -8
accepted
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 18, 2020 20:25:23 GMT -8
Isn’t STL getting a lot?
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Post by wynne on Dec 18, 2020 20:30:33 GMT -8
Sorry, the 2M retained on Duchene is being retained by Nashville, not Colorado.
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on Dec 18, 2020 20:44:36 GMT -8
Im sorry, maybe I’m just not seeing it. But why is Markstrom/Byram only worth Grabner/Toews/2nd? I could Markstrom for Vasilevsky swap being even because of salary, but that leaves Duchene for Grabner/Toews/2nd. Some of you guys were just giving BOS shit about Bergeron
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Blues/Avs
Dec 19, 2020 3:23:21 GMT -8
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Post by Vegas Golden Knights GM on Dec 19, 2020 3:23:21 GMT -8
Can one of you break this down?
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 19, 2020 4:46:18 GMT -8
Oreilly for Stone - I really wanted to get Oreilly back he was a huge plus for my team before
Vasilevsky,Toews and the 2nd for Duchene and Markstrom - Duchene just didn't perform well in Colorado and the ability to pick up the best goalie in the league at a young age I couldn't turn down
Grabner for Bowen - this just came down to what I felt I needed to do to entice him to actually trade me Oreilly and and Vasilevsky the two players I really wanted from him
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 19, 2020 6:23:00 GMT -8
Vasilevsky,Toews and the 2nd for Duchene and Markstrom
Grabner for Bowen
Both of these are horrible for you
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 19, 2020 6:29:14 GMT -8
Vasilevsky,Toews and the 2nd for Duchene and Markstrom Grabner for Bowen Both of these are horrible for you I am glad you think so, but what matters is how it affects my team and that would be a big ++++++++ Damn it is getting hard to make trades  |
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Post by Columbus Blue Jackets GM on Dec 19, 2020 6:56:23 GMT -8
Oreilly for Stone - I really wanted to get Oreilly back he was a huge plus for my team before Vasilevsky,Toews and the 2nd for Duchene and Markstrom - Duchene just didn't perform well in Colorado and the ability to pick up the best goalie in the league at a young age I couldn't turn down Grabner for Bowen - this just came down to what I felt I needed to do to entice him to actually trade me Oreilly and and Vasilevsky the two players I really wanted from him Grabner for Bowen? Cooker, you're not new lol. The deal is acceptable with that part taken out imo |
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Post by wynne on Dec 19, 2020 7:02:19 GMT -8
How many 91 rated goalies are there in the league? Nevermind the fact he’s only 26 and signed long term. I can think of 1 other goalie like that, and it’s Hellebuyck. You have to pay to get something that is hard to come by.
What I find comical is Vegas being weary about it when he traded Lehner for Draisaitl.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:15:15 GMT -8
Oreilly for Stone - I really wanted to get Oreilly back he was a huge plus for my team before Vasilevsky,Toews and the 2nd for Duchene and Markstrom - Duchene just didn't perform well in Colorado and the ability to pick up the best goalie in the league at a young age I couldn't turn down Grabner for Bowen - this just came down to what I felt I needed to do to entice him to actually trade me Oreilly and and Vasilevsky the two players I really wanted from him Grabner for Bowen? Cooker, you're not new lol. The deal is acceptable with that part taken out imo I needed a piece that would help me get the rest of this deal. Some times you have to pay to get the things you really want ie Oreilly and Vasilevsky and oh yes I really wanted Grabner in Colorado for the rest of his career |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:32:25 GMT -8
What I find comical is Vegas being weary about it when he traded Lehner for Draisaitl. What does that have to do with anything? I don’t remember what else was involved in that trade but unfortunately on paper it was fair so move along. What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites so why not just let gms run their own teams and only reject trades that are over the top atrocious. |
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Post by wynne on Dec 19, 2020 7:36:04 GMT -8
What I find comical is Vegas being weary about it when he traded Lehner for Draisaitl. What does that have to do with anything? I don’t remember what else was involved in that trade but unfortunately on paper it was fair so move along. What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites so why not just let gms run their own teams and only reject trades that are over the top atrocious. You wonder what that has to do with anything and you talk about hypocrisy lol. Lehner trade wasn’t fair, there’s a reason it still gets brought up. I don’t care about it being rejected if people don’t think it’s fair, that’s what they’re here for. Just would like a decision. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:43:20 GMT -8
What I find comical is Vegas being weary about it when he traded Lehner for Draisaitl. What does that have to do with anything? I don’t remember what else was involved in that trade but unfortunately on paper it was fair so move along. What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites so why not just let gms run their own teams and only reject trades that are over the top atrocious. I don't understand "What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites"?? I don't see anything wrong with this. You have to pay to get players you want. Ratings wise and cap wise this trade is perfect. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:44:36 GMT -8
What does that have to do with anything? I don’t remember what else was involved in that trade but unfortunately on paper it was fair so move along. What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites so why not just let gms run their own teams and only reject trades that are over the top atrocious. You wonder what that has to do with anything and you talk about hypocrisy lol. Lehner trade wasn’t fair, there’s a reason it still gets brought up. I don’t care about it being rejected if people don’t think it’s fair, that’s what they’re here for. Just would like a decision. Only butt hurt idiots are bringing it up. Like move along from that trade it’s over done accepted. It is what it is. Whining about it is doing you nothing except making you look like a baby. Anyway Is this trade 100% fair no? You’re obviously winning it on paper cuz you’re basically getting Byram for nothing. Is it atrocious no? So I have no reason to reject this or see no reason why any mod would. Let guys run their teams the way they want. If there’s a trade that comes up that is absolutely over the top then ya that’s why we have mods. Not to stop trades like this. The nitpicking on trades is ridiculous and ruining this league especially for the newer guys. It’s become a joke. |
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Post by wynne on Dec 19, 2020 7:48:28 GMT -8
You wonder what that has to do with anything and you talk about hypocrisy lol. Lehner trade wasn’t fair, there’s a reason it still gets brought up. I don’t care about it being rejected if people don’t think it’s fair, that’s what they’re here for. Just would like a decision. Only butt hurt idiots are bringing it up. Like move along from that trade it’s over done accepted. It is what it is. Whining about it is doing you nothing except making you look like a baby. Anyway Is this trade 100% fair no? You’re obviously winning it on paper cuz you’re basically getting Byram for nothing. Is it atrocious no? So I have no reason to reject this or see no reason why any mod would. Let guys run their teams the way they want. If there’s a trade that comes up that is absolutely over the top then ya that’s why we have mods. Not to stop trades like this. The nitpicking on trades is ridiculous and ruining this league especially for the newer guys. It’s become a joke. Resorting to name calling, nice one lol. I’m not whining about the trade, just bringing it up as a reminder, the trade had zero effect on me. The only thing ruining the league is the new guys that come in and make horrific trades that deplete teams |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:49:33 GMT -8
What does that have to do with anything? I don’t remember what else was involved in that trade but unfortunately on paper it was fair so move along. What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites so why not just let gms run their own teams and only reject trades that are over the top atrocious. I don't understand "What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites"?? I don't see anything wrong with this. You have to pay to get players you want. Ratings wise and cap wise this trade is perfect. Yes so that makes you a hypocrite. You say just let it go through (which I agree with) but you reject 100 other trades. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:54:20 GMT -8
Only butt hurt idiots are bringing it up. Like move along from that trade it’s over done accepted. It is what it is. Whining about it is doing you nothing except making you look like a baby. Anyway Is this trade 100% fair no? You’re obviously winning it on paper cuz you’re basically getting Byram for nothing. Is it atrocious no? So I have no reason to reject this or see no reason why any mod would. Let guys run their teams the way they want. If there’s a trade that comes up that is absolutely over the top then ya that’s why we have mods. Not to stop trades like this. The nitpicking on trades is ridiculous and ruining this league especially for the newer guys. It’s become a joke. Resorting to name calling, nice one lol. I’m not whining about the trade, just bringing it up as a reminder, the trade had zero effect on me. The only thing ruining the league is the new guys that come in and make horrific trades that deplete teams Man let them learn from their mistakes. Ask joub he always brings up he got trade raped by rk and it taught him a lesson. Only guys I’d be worried about are edmonton and Dallas as he’s not active. Rest of the guys are all super active and will learn. And yes you’re whining lol get over it. |
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Post by wynne on Dec 19, 2020 7:55:16 GMT -8
I don't understand "What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites"?? I don't see anything wrong with this. You have to pay to get players you want. Ratings wise and cap wise this trade is perfect. Yes so that makes you a hypocrite. You say just let it go through (which I agree with) but you reject 100 other trades. Don’t agree with that either. Cook wanted O’Reilly and Vasilevsky, neither of which I really wanted to trade. He gave up more than people might think is fair, but that’s the price to get a top 2 goalie in the league. Complete opposite of what Calgary was doing to Boston, he wasn’t giving up enough to get a top piece. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Dec 19, 2020 7:55:28 GMT -8
I don't understand "What I find funny is all the trades getting rejected and then 2 mods come up with this lol. So now we have 2 mods looking like hypocrites"?? I don't see anything wrong with this. You have to pay to get players you want. Ratings wise and cap wise this trade is perfect. Yes so that makes you a hypocrite. You say just let it go through (which I agree with) but you reject 100 other trades. I don't reject 100 trades though so calling me a hypocrite is unfair. I think I have rejected maybe 2 trades but they were all the same one. Some trades need to be rejected though especially when you see some new kid being taken advantage of. |
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:36:20 GMT -8
I think too much is going to STL. Reject
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:38:03 GMT -8
Colorado thats nice, you dont want new to be taken advantage of, tysm for being nice. And I agree, its pathetic rejecting trades, I mean if its 2 trainer who are not new that make a trade, even if its not fair, you need to accept, cause whycoach of othwer teams, could decide? I dont get that. If 2 people agree in a trade it should be automatically final
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:40:42 GMT -8
If we’re saying mods and admins can trade with each other without being accepted then fine but we have a job to do as the current system is and this one is lopsided
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:44:07 GMT -8
If we’re saying mods and admins can trade with each other without being accepted then fine but we have a job to do as the current system is and this one is lopsided No it’s not and if you think it is then you shouldn’t be a mod |
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:45:18 GMT -8
If we’re saying mods and admins can trade with each other without being accepted then fine but we have a job to do as the current system is and this one is lopsided No it’s not and if you think it is then you shouldn’t be a mod If you think it’s not lopsided then you shouldn’t be a mod. See how that works? |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:45:46 GMT -8
Yes so that makes you a hypocrite. You say just let it go through (which I agree with) but you reject 100 other trades. Don’t agree with that either. Cook wanted O’Reilly and Vasilevsky, neither of which I really wanted to trade. He gave up more than people might think is fair, but that’s the price to get a top 2 goalie in the league. Complete opposite of what Calgary was doing to Boston, he wasn’t giving up enough to get a top piece. So cuz cook wanted it it’s fine? How hypocritical. If you want 2 teams talk to an admin or else let the other gms in the league run their own teams. Like I said I think the trade is close enough to be fair anyway. Might be a little bit of an overpayment but it happens |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:46:51 GMT -8
No it’s not and if you think it is then you shouldn’t be a mod If you think it’s not lopsided then you shouldn’t be a mod. See how that works? Yes I do. You’re ruining the league and taking the fun out of it for a lot of gms. So get your head out of your ass and let the other gms run their own damn teams |
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Post by Philadelphia Flyers GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:48:20 GMT -8
If you think it’s not lopsided then you shouldn’t be a mod. See how that works? Yes I do. You’re ruining the league and taking the fun out of it for a lot of gms. So get your head out of your ass and let the other gms run their own damn teams Greg doesn’t think other people should have any opinions and all trades should go through without a hitch. Getting warmer? |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Dec 19, 2020 8:51:50 GMT -8
Yes I do. You’re ruining the league and taking the fun out of it for a lot of gms. So get your head out of your ass and let the other gms run their own damn teams Greg doesn’t think other people should have any opinions and all trades should go through without a hitch. Getting warmer? Greg thinks you’re ruining the league. Cuz I’ve had a few guys now message me on discord about how ridiculous the mods are. And I guess you can’t read whatsoever. I don’t think every trade should go through. Obviously lopsided ones shouldn’t but this one is close enough and if you don’t see that you shouldn’t be a mod. So stop ruining the league and let gms have fun with trades |
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